There’s been a few bits and pieces revealed over the past week about Terminator: Genisys but rather than doing multiple posts for the same movie I thought I’d hold off. A lot of this you’ll already know but in case you missed it, here goes.
First off Arnie has said that he’ll be back for a sequel to this summer’s Terminator: Genisys; when he was asked by The Arnold Fans if he would star in a follow up he said “Yes, of course, next year” so he’ll be donning the sunglasses for a few years yet.
We’ve also had some word about the script to Genisys, some good and some bad.
There may be MAJOR SPOILERS ahead so if you don’t want any plot points ruined then you’d best look away now.
Greg from schwarzenegger.freeforums.net said:
“I think the best way to describe Terminator Genisys is three action packed movies in one. First of all, we finally get to see the Future Wars. Where John Connor, Kyle Reese and resistance take on Skynet. This is something that Terminator fans have wanted to see since James Cameron gave them a preview of it in the first film. So I don’t think fans will be disappointed with this portion of the movie at all!
In the script the future war is 18 pages. So I would say around 20 minutes give or take. So it’s probably 10-15 minutes of action and then the set up with Reese going back to 1984. The movie should be slightly over 2 hours(script is 130 pages). So the breakdown will probably be about 20 minutes Future Wars, 40 minutes 1984 and 1 hour for (*date removed for spoiler) portion of the movie.
Once Kyle Reese arrives in 1984, he quickly finds out that the past he was expecting, is no longer there. Since Jai Courtney “Reese” was expecting things to be exactly like Michael Biehn “Reese” from the original movie. With him having to save a young, weak Sarah Connor from an evil T-800 Terminator.
To his surprise he finds a near unstoppable T-1000 chasing him. With Sarah Connor and a “older T-800” having to rescue him. We soon find out that something happened when Sarah was a child. A good Arnold T-800 rescued her and raised for the past 10 years. Which caused the Terminator universe as we know it to be “reset”. This portion of the movie gives long time Terminator fans a great nostalgia feeling – with it taking place in the same 1984 location as the original film. Not to mention it has the same action-packed chase scenes, shoot outs and Terminator vs Terminator fights to be expect from a Terminator film.
Now you would think seeing a big action-packed future war battle along with an older Arnold vs young Arnold T-800 showdown and having a T-1000 trying to terminate them in 1984 would be more then enough action and excitement for moviegoers but the action and thrills are just getting started! Next we see Sarah/Kyle (*deleted to be spoiler free). The dual is then greeted by a even older T-800 Arnold with grey hair. Of course you know Skynet isn’t going to go out without a fight. This is when a new and very powerful threat appears. As action packed and exciting as the first two portions of the movie are, the third portion of the movie has even more non-stop big explosive action with tons of destruction and surprises.
For me personally, since I loved the first two Terminator movies so much, I’m not sure it will beat the classics but we shall see. If you go into this movie with a open mind and willing to accept some changes, this should be an action-packed thrill ride that rivals any recent summer blockbuster. Because this script gave Alan Taylor and the cast with a lot of really good material to work with here. With a script like this, it’s not surprising that Skydance signed Laeta Kalogridis and Patrick Lussier to a two-year first look deal with the company.
I get the vibe that fans have been disappointed with Arnold’s involvement in action sequences since his comeback. Well, that changes with Terminator Genisys. Arnold is front and center of all the big action during the 1984 and (*deleted) portion of the movie.”
Another positive review comes from a user named Jay:
“I’ve never read a script before but with all the negativity surrounding Genisys, I couldn’t resist when offered the chance. After reading a very scathing screenplay review and mostly bad feedback about the trailer, I thought it can’t be that bad surely!? Time to see for myself!
I’m pleased to say I was pleasantly surprised because not only should the film deliver but it feels huge, delivering in action, sfx and story.
Long time Terminator fans should be pleased to see some classic scenes recreated with a Back To The Future twist, meaning things don’t pan out like the original movie; this is good for the nostalgia feel.
People new to the franchise and fans alike should also be happy as I think this actually feels like a Terminator movie, unlike Rise of the Machines and Salvation. The atmosphere feels gritty and exciting, especially in the future war scenes. I can’t give spoilers but sfx is going to pushed to the limit for war scenes at the start, I really hope they can do it justice onscreen.
This also plays out like no other Terminator film yet in the fact it’s not set in one time period from start to finish with a single villain to deal with! No the threat is greater here with two well known model terminators and a couple of other types spread throughout the movie – which has 3 major time zones. Safe to say the movie will look unique all the way through, keeping it fresh and exciting.
I cannot express enough how the atmosphere I felt in the script wasn’t present in the 2 minutes of footage that we’ve been shown! I think they have tackled it wrongly by aiming mostly at the new crowd with the trailer and Super Bowl spot, making it look as if it’s a big bright Marvel type movie but it definitely didn’t read like that. I’d say maybe 1 or 2 moments of action might be a bit over-the-top for the hardcore fans wanting a Terminator movie to be made like it’s the 80’s but we’ve already seen them in the bus flip and Terminator dive bomb from the chopper.
Some of the dialogue wasn’t the best but there may have been a revised script. The “pops” talk and T-800 watching sesame street stuff has been over exaggerated. It all makes sense when reading it and no doubt if anyone heard about Arnold being called Uncle Bob, swearing not to kill anyone and learning to say “No Problemo” back in the day when T2 was looming, fans would have been crying about that too.
It felt epic as I was reading. I could see every scene playing out in my head and I feel anyone who liked the first two installments will find enjoyment in Genisys.”
Now for some of the bad, this time courtesy of The Terminator Fans:
“Arnold is continuously referred to as ‘Pops’. Let’s just say; Terminator Genisys could touch our hearts or make us angry. If this is Patrick Lussier and Laeta Kalogridis’ world building… then I’d rather they went building somewhere else… Minecraft perhaps?.
The writing is comic-book in nature and regularly you will see stupid dialogue in the script like KACTHUNK POW KERCHING! to signify bullet hits and reloading weapons etc… it’s just really, well, childish and almost like they weren’t taking the source material seriously enough.
Don’t write below par stories and expect to be praised as writers.
I didn’t feel immersed by the script but instead alienated as a fan… I feel sorry for Alan Taylor…”
The Night Rider over at Manly Movie has read the script too which doesn’t sound too promising; this is the final paragraph which is all you’ll need to see:
“They have absolutely mauled Terminator lore here in trying to give it an edgy reboot. With terrible characters, a totally shameful turn for Arnold Schwarzenegger and a story that makes The Sarah Connor Chronicles look like a masterpiece – but all of this is before the final insult. I’m talking about the big one here. Worse than the horrific ‘daddy’s little girl’ plot arc, worse than the family-orientated action. Search the net, you’ll find out what I’m talking about. I’m so angry, I don’t even want to repeat it. Your reaction will first be disbelief, then laughter, then anger, then depression. It’s a plot twist involving John Connor and a state of the art virus. Sound bad? You really don’t know the half of it.
An absolutely terrible and atrocious screenplay. This movie is going to be really, really bad.”
Hmm, frankly I’m now even more curious to see what this film is actually like but my expectations are pretty low. But it’s the return of Arnold and I gotta support the big man.
Also the following model from the upcoming movie looks cool.